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KiwiGirlFruit

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Cantering

I have got a really sweet 6 year old who is quite green in the school. His canter is very weird and he like rocks himself and arches his back when he canters. Any exercises any one knows that works that could help me?

This is a video of riding him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDbdqaGtqmI

the cantering is 0:42 seconds til 0:49.

 

Thank you if anyone has any tips xxx

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sophie145

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sophie145 says:

Re: Cantering

hi there! just wondering when he was last checked by the vet as he looks a tiney bit lame on one leg :/ maybe its just me or maybe hes unbalenced for a few strides.

a really valuable exercise for any horse, especially a green horse, are trotting poles to help them lift their feet up and will encourage him to put his head down. start with 3 poles with 2 people strides apart then build up the amount of poles. canter strides are 4 people strides apart...if your in any doubt get an experienced person to help you :) another thing that will improve his way of going is to get him bending well round corners so serpentines ect will do him good

you have such a lovely horse, have loads of fun with him, he deffinitly has so much potential your very lucky to have him :) hope this helps xx

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kevinhiatt

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kevinhiatt says:

Re: Cantering

Get the horse checked out asap by vet, farrier and a backlady/ man or McTimnoy practitioner also check tack and don't forget dentist, the problem here we are paranoid over our horses which are our family even though have 4 legs, a tail and weigh the best part of a tonne in some cases.

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KiwiGirlFruit

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Re: Cantering

We have had the vet and dentist out recently and he just had his saddle fitted and back checked, he only does it in the school, hacking he is fine x

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DuffyDuck

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DuffyDuck says:

Re: Cantering

Unfortunately I am in work so can't view the youtube video right now- I will check it when I get home.

One thing I would like to say is trotting poles will NOT encourage a horse to drop his head, and a horse that is lacking balance and confidence should not be asked to go over trotting poles.

Groundwork such as lunging is hugely beneficial to horses that have green or unsteady canters.

My old mare was 6 when I bought her, skin and bone and 18.1hh and a rectangle shape. Building her up wsa a nightmare, she had no balance. But we got there.

Lunging with gummi reins that run behind the ears, through the bit and attach to the lunge girth help a horse to accept the contact and lower the head, without forcing them in to position. From the ground you can drive them forwards.

Vocals are a big key to lunging, and your horse should learn 'walk, trot, canter, halt, forwards, slow.' If you aren't very knowledgeable about lunging, I would advise getting some lessons.

Over time and depending on how the horse accepts the gummis and contact you can move on to side reins, and then a pessoa device system which encourages the horse to work from behind.
Before attaching any devices, warm your horse up for 10-15 mins in w/t.


Cantering on a green horse should always be on the middle circle. Ask for canter at E/B so they have the chance to use that bend and the school wall to balance themselves and go on the correct lead. You don't want to sit 'heavy' in the saddle, but sit with a light-ish seat so you keep the contact and drive, but you don't over work your body. That way, when you want your horse to trot you can sit heavier in the saddle so they learn to use the transitions off your body.

Lots of walking will also help build him up, and free jumping once he is more confident within his gaits.

Going to try and load the video on my phone so I can have a quick peek...

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DuffyDuck

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DuffyDuck says:

Re: Cantering

So I just watched the video ;)

Don't take any offence in how I say this, I'm just writing it down as I see it without the fluff and niceness cause I'm in work and have to move fsat before my lunch break is over.

In a trot, you allow him to really fall on to his forehand, your reins are too loose and you have no contact to his mouth until you want to turn him. Where as I'm not expecting him to come in an outline, you should still seek to put him in to a contact rather than jabbing his mouth and ask him to drop his head.

This will help motivate his hind end and get his back moving.

Because of this, when you canter, his hind end and his forehand look like they belong to two different horses. He doesn't step through with his inside hind in a canter, and he could move a lot more open.

There is a very good reson for this.
Your saddle.

I can see in the video that it is sitting WAY too far forward, you block his shoulder and that is why he canters 'funny' with you. You need to get your trainer or someone experienced to show you where your saddle should be sitting.

This horse isn't ready for pole work yet, he needs to work more consistently in a trot and canter, however with time and practise it will come.

I fully agree that he needs more of a 'job' and circles and serpentines (1&3 loop), figures of eights and changes through half the school will help with this and he needs to learn to bend and not motorbike round the corners of the school.

You should always be able to see the eye of your horse on the inside bend- let him turn his nose out and he will unbalance you both.

That being said, he is doing his job as best he can with that saddle so far forward on him. For a youngster he is very kind in that respect- my dad's mare threw him a mile when he was trying saddles and one just didn't fit right.

 

Best of luck!

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AmmanValleyLuka1011

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Re: Cantering

 I agree with everything DuffyDuck has said! Sorry but its true

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