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brook

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brook says:

If you don't feel that it's right then don't do it !!

I've just been reading an article about tight nosebands and how they can affect the horses breathing,his ability to swallow and also how excessively tight nosebands can damage the nerves and cause pain. 

 

This reminds me of an incident a few weeks ago, we had a local saddler out to see Tilly and whilst he was with her he remarked that her noseband was too low, which I did agree with so he punched some additional holes and raised it up. He also said that the noseband needed to be tighter ( which I did'nt agree with ) and pulled it extremely tight, when he left I just did'nt feel comfortable riding Tilly with the noseband so tight also it was too high almost cutting into her cheek bones, of course I adjusted it and made her comfortable but I was left wondering how many people just take the word of so called professionals and think that they must be right !

 

Has anyone else had something done to their horse that they just don't feel right about ?

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kevinhiatt

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kevinhiatt says:

Re: If you don't feel that it's right then don't do it !!

We were always told at the Col.'s yard when taught to ride always leave 2 fingers gap under buckle of nose band and 4 fingers under the throat latch and have been doing this for the past 46 years, never had any problems with this advice as this must have been as it was in the Cavalry, if it works etc.

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alrees

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alrees says:

Re: If you don't feel that it's right then don't do it !!

 I follow the same rule kevin, has always worked well for me. I also used a padded bridle if I go hacking to prevent rubbing or any discomfort, :)

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greyandbay

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greyandbay says:

Re: If you don't feel that it's right then don't do it !!

kevinhiatt said:

We were always told at the Col.'s yard when taught to ride always leave 2 fingers gap under buckle of nose band and 4 fingers under the throat latch and have been doing this for the past 46 years, never had any problems with this advice as this must have been as it was in the Cavalry, if it works etc.



 

Yes, same here.

When we first had Grouse, my daughters horse, we tried a few different types of bit and nosebands, one of which was a borrowed crank noseband as it had been recommended by her instructor.

I have to say I thought it was awful, and Grouse hated it - it was so tight he could hardly move his jaw, let alone open his mouth, and although I know it could have been loosened we didn't go down that road and he ended up with a flash and three ring gag which he was absolutely fine with.

So yes, if your gut instinct says no, go with that feeling !!

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nix123

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nix123 says:

Re: If you don't feel that it's right then don't do it !!

 Totally agree with the 2 fingers and 4 fingers rule for the bridle.  I think because we can get more info off the internet or mags some people are then instant professionals! ( We've all met one) I always say little knowledge is worse than none. I always go with my gut feeling if it dont feel right usually its not. 

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emaluvsmango

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emaluvsmango says:

Re: If you don't feel that it's right then don't do it !!

I would have been inclined to get a lead rope round his neck and pull that tight aswell lol. If your just using an ordinary nose band there should be no reason to have it tight. I actually rarely use bobs noseband, only pop it on every now and then keep him used to it incase we want to do some dressage at some point.

Although a nice nose band does look lovely, I actually bought my new bridle because it had a lovely nose band, and then rememberd id be taking it off, such an idiot lol

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lauralou15

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lauralou15 says:

Re: If you don't feel that it's right then don't do it !!

 on this subject how tight would do a flash on a horse? Jake has one and the hole that looks like it is used the most seems far far too tight for him so we use it on a looser one but I wondered what rule people use for that?

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Jane Menzies

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Jane Menzies says:

Re: If you don't feel that it's right then don't do it !!

 Hi, I was taught the same as Kevin mentioned, the 2 finger rule for noseband and 4 finger for throatlash but for flashes I'm not sure there is a definite, I've seen them done up so tight and on others really loose and nosebands way too low. 

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rhapsody

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rhapsody says:

Re: If you don't feel that it's right then don't do it !!

A flash needs to be tight enough so that the horse cannot open its mouth, but if done up too tight you can actually fracture the small delicate bones either side of the nostrils.  I tend to make sure I can get a finger just under it, but the horses I have just now don't need one.

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nix123

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nix123 says:

Re: If you don't feel that it's right then don't do it !!

 I usually do the flash up so i can fit my index finger under it quite comfortably. I use it because my horse has a tendancy to stick his tongue out of the side of his mouth (like a dog)  funny to look at but it costs points in dressage. If we are hacking or jumping i dont usually bother as he only does it every so often.

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AMLS

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AMLS says:

Re: If you don't feel that it's right then don't do it !!

I agree with not having nosebands too tight, however ... it really bugs me to see people using the flash incorrectly. The cavesson part must be done up tight to prevent the flash pulling it down and the flash must never be tightened too firmly, just enough to stop the horse opening his mouth. It drives me crazy to see this noseband used the opposite way round with the cavesson loose and the flash so tight it pulls the cavesson down and probably causes a fair degree of discomfort !!! TBH I never even use a flash now, I much prefer to use a grackle. It's easier to adjust (in my eyes) correctly and more useful also.

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