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amyeliza90

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amyeliza90 says:

Transfer of ownership

Hello,

Wondered if anybody could give some advice!?!?

I've looked after and loaned horses in the past but never brought one. So over the last month i've been looking and over the last week i have found a beautiful filly and fell in love with her. So i have but down a deposit for her and the owner gave me the passport. I have come to fill out the "transfer of ownership" before i pay the rest and have noticed the seller has not previously filled out the "transfer of ownership" and has had the filly for a year. I understand that i need to call the welsh pony and cob society to find out what to do!

But just wondered if anybody else has had this happen? Does it matter? And what are the consequences?

Really wished i had noticed this before i put my deposit down  

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mcallistar

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mcallistar says:

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I think it's fairly common for people not to complete transfer of ownerships, although they obviously should. Although I know my horse had been through a dealer and a riding school, neither had transferred her and she was still registered to her breeder in Holland.  I managed to transfer ownership without any problem though. I wonder if it's because the process takes so long and costs that people who aren't expecting to have the horse for long don't transfer?  

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Bardybear

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Bardybear says:

Re: Transfer of ownership

I think, more to the point, that the owner is completely barmy if they've given you the passport before you've paid for the horse!  Who on earth does that really?

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pippixox

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pippixox says:

Re: Transfer of ownership

the issue is that the horse is tecnically not her property according to the passport! tranfer of ownership- you basically have to fill out a form and the last owner has to sign it to say you are now the owner and you sign it and put your details on it, and send it with the passport to the passport issuer and they then sign the passport with you as the new owner (normally costs £10-£20)

but if the seller has not officially been registerd as the last owner, you would need the signature of the person who is written in the passport as the owner, in order to be able to official transfer ownership. dont understand how the person owns them and hasnt done this in the whole year of having her?

my horses are my medicine, without them im even more crazy!

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Leo2980

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Leo2980 says:

Re: Transfer of ownership

pippixox said:

the issue is that the horse is tecnically not her property according to the passport! tranfer of ownership- you basically have to fill out a form and the last owner has to sign it to say you are now the owner and you sign it and put your details on it, and send it with the passport to the passport issuer and they then sign the passport with you as the new owner (normally costs £10-£20)

but if the seller has not officially been registerd as the last owner, you would need the signature of the person who is written in the passport as the owner, in order to be able to official transfer ownership. dont understand how the person owns them and hasnt done this in the whole year of having her?



I have never had to have the signature of the previous owner when applying for transfer of ownership, just filled out the form and sent off the passport and paperwork.  The latest one, I applied online and nobody had to sign anything!

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Boyzie92

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Boyzie92 says:

Re: Transfer of ownership

ive got a pony on lwvtb whose passport is still registered with his previous owner... he is also registered with the welsh pony and cob society. I plan to buy him soon so will transfer him into my name, I know how to get in contact with the previous owner though so if i need her to sign anything ill be able to do it quite easily i should hope!

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pippixox

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pippixox says:

Re: Transfer of ownership

interesting leo, the agency my passport was registerd with required a form to be filled out with details and signature from past owner, so may be it depends.

my horses are my medicine, without them im even more crazy!

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kezza81

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kezza81 says:

Re: Transfer of ownership

 i take it the seller is a dealer? its pretty comon for dealers not to fill out the change of ownership although it is actually a legal requirement for the change to be registered within 2-4weeks of the horse being moved to any new owner/property. 

if you register on the ned website you can check the passport details match the horse and soetimes get the contact details of original owner as well as be reassured the horse is not stolen.

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