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tatti

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tatti says:

Ex racehorse Thoroughbred going barefoot! Photos & Video

Photos as promised, having problems with down loading but hope you can see these ok, ex race horse thoroughbred who kept pulling his shoes off, got fed up and so am giving barefoot a go, only one week in. He would tear around the field and pull them off, despite having two pairs of over reach boots on, he would also step on himself and pull the shoe sideways. We have had the farrier out so many times,  the poor horse spent more time on box rest with his foot in a poultice than ridden. Eventually, there was no hoof to nail onto, we had already removed the back shoes anyway, after his accident when he fractured his face and was turned away. Having problems with ridden work as well, he will throw his head up in the air and fight the bit, noticed that he would trip at times when I took him out of the field. Shall see if he improves with the shoes removed. Am going to totally alter his diet too. It shall be interesting.

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Micki

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Micki says:

Re: Ex racehorse Thoroughbred going barefoot! Piccies

I've never dealt with it but having just done a quick search i would say yes it can. If it is deep enough it can affect the laminae and then you have a lame horse, which could explain why you have been worried about LGL.

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greyandbay

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greyandbay says:

Re: Ex racehorse Thoroughbred going barefoot! Piccies

Just reading through your most recent posts to catch up a bit, you are going through it with him, aren't you!

I see you're wondering if trimming could have made him sore - yes, it can, with our rescue gelding who had laminitis before we had him, and LGL very slightly once after we had him, he very often feels a little footy after trimming, not always straightaway, maybe a day or so, sometimes more, and it can last for about a week until he gets used to the trim and the foot begins to grow again.

I don't have a barefoot trimmer, just an ordinary farrier, but he's been brilliant, and has worked very closely with my vet, and we've had 6 monthly x rays to check on things with the pedal bone etc.

Also thrush - have you tried a fairly new thing called NT Dry - www.ntdry.co.uk  - it's the best thing I've ever come across for thrush, it's a powder you sprinkle on, probably for 2 or 3 days, and it does dry everything up beautifully.

Also, think I mentioned cyclospray to you previously? Have you asked your vet about any, as it really is good for getting into little holes and cracks to sort out infection.

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tatti

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tatti says:

Re: Ex racehorse Thoroughbred going barefoot! Piccies

Hi grey and bay, I am going to get the powder today at local tack shop or shall order on line, funny enough it was being promoted on the Your Horse mag I got this month. Havent bought the mag for simply ages - to be honest, reading pages of how to do half passes and enjoying your hacking when you have a horse you cant ride, makes me depressed! - Anyway, I took some photos this morning, shall upload now - slight bulge on sole above where the seedy toe is, not sure if thats ok or not, shall forward photos to trimmer. His feet have grown since last trim. He was better again this morning but still not right on that foot, better in a straight line but, limps a few strides when you ask him to walk in small circle. Am flushing with t tree oil, and then packing with redhorse putty. Heat in hooves now gone down to nearly normal and so has pulse. So, at least he is getting better, rather than worse. Let me know what you think of the snaps.

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tatti

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tatti says:

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ok, that didnt work, shall upload from computer

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tatti

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jenhavocmanny

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Re: Ex racehorse Thoroughbred going barefoot! Piccies

Glad to hear he's getting better. As for seedy toe, yes ,as Micki said,  it can make them lame, it will probably take a few farrier visits before it's cut out completely.

My pony had it after a laminitis attack when we first had him 5 yrs ago.  The farrier cut out a V shaped notch where the seedy toe was, (on the front of his hoof, round and down to front of sole -bit hard to explain, sorry no pics) The hole had to be flushed with hydrogen peroxide and filled with putty,I used the Kerotex one. Whenever the putty fell out, usually every couple of days, hole had to be flushed again, and refilled. ( I found sticking a piece of duck tape over the putty helped it stay in longer -about 4 days) He could still be ridden (with boots on) even with the seedy toe, as he wasn't lame. It did eventually grow out and he's not had a recurrence of it, even though he had a bad laminitic attack about  3 months ago.

 

It may be the seedy toe needs cutting out again? Might have spread a bit, as it easily does. I'm sure Lucy will know. And possibly flush with hydrogen peroxide, as perhaps its stronger than the t tree?  Just a suggestion, again Lucy will probably advise you best.

 

His feet certainly look loads better, glad it's coming right again!

 

 

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greyandbay

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greyandbay says:

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His feet do look quite good generally from your pics, but the seedy toe thing does look like what Monty had some months back, only my farrier and vet didn't call it that, just that there was a hole between the hoof wall and the inside bit (technical term that!!) and that dirt and mud had got up there and caused an infection.

So with Monty, my farrier cut a V shaped notch, like Jens farrier (above) did to let as much of the nasty stuff out as possible, and I then used the cyclospray on it and stuffed the hole with cotton wool.

Sprayed and changed the cotton wool every day, and it did stay in amazingly, but it depends on the hole obviously, and within about 4 or 5 days it had cleared up.

Personally, I'd be in favour of ditching the hydrogen peroxide and tea tree, and get some cyclospray - I'm a real fan of the stuff !!

The outside of a horse is good for the inside of a man - Winston Churchill

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tatti

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tatti says:

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Spirit was ridden last night and was really good, he wore his hoof boots in the field, he was quite forward going, especially as he hadnt been ridden for 3 weeks!  Still flushing the seedy toe with t tree oil and packing with filler. Heat totally gone in feet. Really pleased.

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tatti

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erh, not 100% happy, he was ridden today and my daughter said that he didnt feel right in trot. She is was right though, he isnt dog lame but, definately not right in that foot that has been the most sore. His hooves have gone down in heat and the white line underneath is tightening up really well, especially when compared to the first photos, you cant really tell from the hoof view at the front, its when you pick up the hoof and look underneath that you can see the big difference and the sole is becoming nice and hard. He is landing heel first in the boots but, something is still not right, Spoke to my vet yesterday, he said yes - self trimming can cause lameness and suggested giving Bute, but dont want to do that, he isnt that bad enough anyway, took his boots off when we got back to yard and walked him on hard surface, he is 100% better than last week, put it that way, but still flinches after say, every 7th stride, albeit on concrete. Shall keep an eye on, no heat in leg or swelling, but he does have a dark purple/red bruise on his heal but very low down, you cant see it when he standing, but if you pick up his foot its where the bulb of the heel goes under to join the sole. So, dont think it was because he over reached, its too low down, perhaps the lameness was due to a stone bruise and its coming out now? I dont know, I am really plucking ideas out of the sky. So, we took him for a walk instead, wearing his boots, down the road and let him eat the grass. Which was all good for him, as he has big issues when hacking out, and doesnt want to stand when asked, i.e. if a car is coming and goes around in circles, but he was an absolute angel today, walked around, stood while the white van passed, was very pleased with him, and the walking on the road, albeit in boots, will help no end to increase foot growth and strengthen the heel. So, no trotting for a while.

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tatti

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tatti says:

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Good news, in the past 48 hours he has stopped limping on that foot on hard ground and is now walking out just fine, so x fingers all is well. Have given him a bit more grass to eat, as his area was getting quite poached but, as we all know, GRASS IS EVIL! - So, shall see how he copes, otherwise he shall go back onto the back paddock. Hoping to ride tonight if not wet, again!.

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