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tatti

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tatti says:

Ex racehorse Thoroughbred going barefoot! Photos & Video

Photos as promised, having problems with down loading but hope you can see these ok, ex race horse thoroughbred who kept pulling his shoes off, got fed up and so am giving barefoot a go, only one week in. He would tear around the field and pull them off, despite having two pairs of over reach boots on, he would also step on himself and pull the shoe sideways. We have had the farrier out so many times,  the poor horse spent more time on box rest with his foot in a poultice than ridden. Eventually, there was no hoof to nail onto, we had already removed the back shoes anyway, after his accident when he fractured his face and was turned away. Having problems with ridden work as well, he will throw his head up in the air and fight the bit, noticed that he would trip at times when I took him out of the field. Shall see if he improves with the shoes removed. Am going to totally alter his diet too. It shall be interesting.

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highlander

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highlander says:

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be careful with seaweed as you can over dose on idoine very easierly.

It has been calculated thay any two thoroughbreds picked at random will on average have more than 13% of their genes in common.

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tatti

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Just an update on the barefoot situation with the TB - we are getting there, slowly though! The horrible heat in his feet did settle and I have been watching his grass intake and making sure he is in by 6pm and not out 24/7 - have put him onto simple systems so no sugar in the feeds, feeding linseed, biotin, seeweed etc, all mixed by the company. We are using the boots to get him to the field and back and have also used them for riding over harder ground, again he is coping, not 100% happy but, I need to get him moving to motivate the feet, we are taking it slowly and carefully. We have had some bruising to the sole on his left foot, from the field, and one of the cavallo horse boots tends to rub his heel, the other is absolutely fine, not sure if the fit is correct or whether its still due to wearing them in. But he does have one foot bigger than the other, the smaller hoof is the one that he fractured when a youngster at training. He still finds it painful to walk from his stable and around the yard on concrete and refuses to go any further than where we hang up his hay net, I am scrubbing the bottom of his feet daily with a soft hand brush and injecting diluted bleech into the gap the farrier put in after widening the crack, so to avoid infection/seedy toe. Although its only 4 weeks since we took his shoes off, it feels like 4 years, I am permanently looking at his hooves and feeling for heat! The hooves are holding up quite nicely after his trim ( 1 1/2 weeks ago) and not chipped any further, but the morning dew on the grasss has helped. The only thing with the boots, and they are easy to get on and off, is that when he is being ridden, you can hear him clipping them from behind, as he does over reach, also they seem rather clumsy, we are only walking him in them and I know you are suposed to be able to gallop around with them on but, because he has typical TB legs, they seem like wellies attached. Shall and try and attach a photo of him wearing his cavallo horse hoof boots. Its probably going to take time for him to get used to wearing them. After all he has had shoes on for most of his life and now has leather trainers on!

Have attached photo showing hoof where farrier removed some of the seedy toe and widened it to allow me to clean it, doesnt look very pretty though

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equi

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equi says:

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 Did you just decide to let him rip them off and go barefoot? Thats what it looks like. Well thats the wrong way to start barefoot and you are going to give him a lot of problems. IF you want to go barefoot you must get a farrier out who will trim them and round them off or they will just crack. You will also need to get the farrier out just as or perhaps even more to make sure there are no craks. 

 

I have just changed farrier because mine is too hard to get a hold of and the hoove got too long, now his feet are horrible. im hoping this one will be more willing to come out regulalry!

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Micki

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Micki says:

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Good to hear that things are starting to settle for you. If you find that the cavallo boots aren't suitable then try a different make. I have heard that renegades are very good, although they are alot harder to get hold of. Hopefully as the diet starts to grow a better hoof then you will be able to use the hoof boots less. I used to use boots every time i rode now i hardly ever use them when i ride.

 

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tatti

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tatti says:

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equi said:

 Did you just decide to let him rip them off and go barefoot? Thats what it looks like. Well thats the wrong way to start barefoot and you are going to give him a lot of problems. IF you want to go barefoot you must get a farrier out who will trim them and round them off or they will just crack. You will also need to get the farrier out just as or perhaps even more to make sure there are no craks. 

 

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Equi, I dont understand what you are suggesting, I didnt just decide to go barefoot, I have had hell with this horse pulling his shoes off in the field, I have had the vet out numerous times because of the damage, he has spent more time in the stable with his feet in a poultice than you would believe, I have tried every over reach boot possible, sometimes one on top of the other, after he badly pulled off another shoe a month ago, my own farrier suggested we let him go barefoot and give it a chance before he done some serious damage, at one point he pushed his toe clip into the sole of his foot and another time sliced through the white line of his hoof with a nail. When the farrier removed his shoes, he didnt want to touch the hoof too much so to not incur any further pain, the feet were so crumbly, I had him back out a week after the shoe removal, as the feet had started to self trim, hence the jagged edges and collapsing of the pour quality horn, my farrier was able to give a much better trim all round and the feet look 100% better, I shall try and take some photos to up load. He is 100% sound in the field barefoot, and we are using hoof boots to give protection, with just 10 mins each evening in them to allow them to wear in. I know its not easy with the barefoot and I am doing all I can, including a lot of expense, £100 on hoof boots, £100 in simple systems feed, feet sprays, feet creams, all that I can, I have also been getting some very good advice from a barefoot trimmer who said, get the feed right, restrict the grass intake (to prevent LGL), exercise as much as possible, with boots if necessary, to promote hoof growth.

 



 

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tatti

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tatti says:

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Just thought I would update you with regards to our horsey going barefoot, we have turned a corner, and he is now sound on the concrete yard which is fantatstic, I am still scrubbing his hooves each morning with milton and flushing the cracks, he did develop a small hole underneat, between the outer wall and the water line, and so I flush and put putty in, not sure if its an abscess that came out or even a stone that pushed and penetrated, as the hoof sole is very fragile still. He is ridde in his hoof boots but, barefoot in the field. The heat in his front feet have now settled and gone, we are watching his grass intake as this can make a barefoot very footy and he is on Simple Solutions feed. He still has a long way to go. He is still throwing his head up on contact, have changed his bit to a neuve schule as recommended by Rowena Cook at the ROR, we have had his back checked twice. I know his feet are probably still sore, but then they have been sore since we have had him, as he could never keep a shoe on.

You can see the horrible separation in the photo and his feet are very flat.

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greyandbay

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greyandbay says:

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That's good news, sounds like things are on the up from now, hope it continues that way!

For the cracks and holes, ask your vet about something called cyclospray, it's only available on prescription I think, but my vet gave me some for our loan gelding who is getting over a separated hoof wall.

We went through an awful phase of him being very footy with holes and spongy bits on his soles, and this spray is brilliant, it's bright turquoise and really penetrates into the hoof, to the extent that even if I haven't used it recently, when the farrier comes to trim he can see it inside after paring off the outer layers.

It's an antibiotic (I think), very antiseptic anyway, and helps dry out infection, I'm really taken with it!!

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tatti

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Thank you, I need to speak to my vet as we need his teeth checked again, as its nearly a year since the last time but this time I shall make sure he is fully sedated and not have him freak out and rear up and over, will be a year in September when he fractured his face etc. I have noticed that the front frogs look a different to the backs, they are not as rock hard but, then they have only been out of shoes for 5 weeks! - But they are sort of shedding, this is normal? There is no heat or pain there.

Photos are farrier trimmed. Although they dont look that bad, they are paper thin on the outside and I know they shall collapse, you can peel away at the layers, you can see the hole in the front underside, Probably seedy toe

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jenhavocmanny

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Re: Ex racehorse Thoroughbred going barefoot! Piccies

Sounds like you're doing great with him. Well done!

I know its going back a couple of posts, but if you're having problems with the boots rubbing heels, you could try the pastern wraps Cavallo do. I use them on my pony's back feet as hes in between sizes and they help stop movement of the boots.

 

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tatti

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tatti says:

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I have got some of the wraps but, when I pull the  boot on, the wraps go upwards, not having much fun with them! - He is inbetween trims at the moment and they are getting tight, which doesnt help either. I cant believe how much his feet have grown in the past 4 weeks, since the last trim, when he was shod, there was never any hoof to remove.

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