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alrees

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alrees says:

Why isn't he selling?

I know the prices of horses are all over the place and people are finding it hard to look after the horses they have got but my friend has a stallion for sale or loan with view to buy and he has had no luck with him at all. I help look after the stallion as the owner is unwell, I was wondering what price would you put on him?
He is a fully registered section A (Welsh Mountain) stallion, light dapple grey, 8 year old, broken to ride and drive, mostly use for breeding and driving now but has done lots of shows as a youngster and lots of ridden ones too. Snaffle mouth and not silly or dangerours to ride in anyway. I handle him a lot and he isn't like a stallion at all, will stand for ages to be groomed and fussed. He will live out all year round even without a rug on in the winter. really flashy with good confirmation.
Breeds good foals who always does well in shows, two foals bred by him qualifed for the royal welsh and welsh championships.
Any idea on a price? He is for sale with all tack and pony trap for £950
I think its a really good price for a lovely stallion like him..

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dollymix

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dollymix says:

Re: Why isn't he selling?

 I think that's a fab price! How long has he been for sale and where is he advertised?

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leannemccabe

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leannemccabe says:

Re: Why isn't he selling?

 agreed thats a fab price but i think if anything the price is too low - people looking to spend under £1000 probably wont have the facilities to cater for a stallion - small stallions especially are harder to sell because being a stallion they have a stigma attached to them and parents probably wouldnt get the little kids (small enough to ride as sec A) a stallion - so your really looking at studs and show homes - studs will want something with impeccable breeding - which you havent mentioned so dont know about this - and show homes will want this too along with a good competition record - if the owner really needs to sell, any chance he could be cut? this would probably attract alot more customers? good luck selling him - an pictures?

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Tommytank

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Tommytank says:

Re: Why isn't he selling?

 I'd say its because the market for little section a ponies is for kids ponies, being a stallion his major market is gone because people just don't want the hassle, livery yards generally wont take them, there's always going to be a problem with turnout and mixing with other horses.  I'd say if he was gelded she could probably add the cost of gelding onto the price and sell him.  Even though i only have boys here they are all gelded, even the minis.

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DuffyDuck

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DuffyDuck says:

Re: Why isn't he selling?

Agree with Tommy. Unless he is right this minute showing, placing and proven himself as a stallion, people won't be interested. Very few adults will fit him, and fewer parents would want their kid on a stallion. I would possibly look to geld him and then sell him on, and perhaps forget when he was gelded if you get my drift as 8 is quite old.

It took me 4 months to sell Duffy, and she was in work, doing well and at one poitn (before my ownership_ sold for 6k. I bought her for just over 3 and sold her for just over 4k.

Its hard at the moment, people are wanting ponies and horses they can take to shows... most shows don't take stallions.

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melxvengeance

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Re: Why isn't he selling?

stallions are for breeding, people are not breeding as much now because they can't afford to keep babies and nobody is buying them. probably why he isn't shifting.

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kevinhiatt

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kevinhiatt says:

Re: Why isn't he selling?

The problem is he is a stallion and anyone with mares would be worried as I am with mine as she is a right tart, also the next problem people are giving foals away, then with what you have the price is more than a little on the low side especially with what coming with him, the next thing is how many of us have the knowledge to handle a stallion even if well behaved. Some people are into showing these lovely animals so what abot the breed society. My mare and the other mare broke through an electric fence when their boyfriend was not there with them to go to the other farm where there is a shetland stallion also a Sec A stallion, both mares are about 16.2h and someone said no problem with the mares, wish that true as a mare has been known to lie down for a small stallion, think if there is a next time I will go for a gelding.

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melxvengeance

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Re: Why isn't he selling?

DuffyDuck said:


Its hard at the moment, people are wanting ponies and horses they can take to shows... most shows don't take stallions.


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If he is showing at more than unaffiliated level then most shows do take stallions. becuase of his height he would probably only be in-hand classes, maybe ridden, classes don't say "no stallions" unless they're a female only class, stallions are quite popular at shows and often do better than others because they are more flashy in the way they move.

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oldmare

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oldmare says:

Re: Why isn't he selling?

william was used for breeding, before sarah bought him  and gelded when he was about 7, so might not be too late for this one to be done.

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kevinhiatt

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kevinhiatt says:

Re: Why isn't he selling?

Ah the problem of gelding and the age its done, my Tonka must have been done late as had a complaint from a TB Mares owner, but Tonka had enjoyed himself with a dozen mares who all lined up for him when all put out together, Tonka what a character sadly missed. Now have a mare who is put out with a gelding and another mare what fun not!

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alrees

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alrees says:

Re: Why isn't he selling?

Thanks for your responses everyone...
First of all he is advertised in local tack shop/feed shops, local advertising paper and about 4 websites. As for gelding, It would be another cost for the owner who isn't well, this pony is a proven sire breeding really nice foals who have won numerous shows. Some of his foals have been sold to different studs in Europe.
He hasnt been shown for about a year but is in show condition, with a good bath he would be fine.
I know the equine market is poor at the moment and not many things are selling but he has been advertised for a good 6 months now, oh he recently passed a full vetting.
Do you think its worthwhile contacting welsh sec A studs? or taking him to a welsh pony and cob sale?
 

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