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tatti

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tatti says:

horse losing shoes constantly in field.Going barefoot, photos and video updates

Our TB has usual rubbish feet but, had improved a lot since we bought him, in past 2 weeks he has pulled off the same shoe 4 times!!, pulled it backwards so the toe clip digs into the hoof and rotated to the side so the nails are sticking out. He is now on box rest with a very sore foot, he has over reach boots on 24/7 and leg bandages, he is close in front but, doesnt brush, is not shod on back, I think that he is standing on the shoe itself and then pulling it. Problem is that the hoof is now bad, with cracks and lumps missing due to trauma. Daughter wants to try barefoot but, I cant see that possible, long walk down track to field, and very very low collapsed heels and flat feet. Also, we are suposed to be bringing him back into work after his 6 month turnaway after his facial fractures so, cant really afford to allow 'time' for feet to harden etc for barefoot. But, I am at the end of my tether, can anyone else suggest what to do or if their horses do the same thing?

 

Photos prior to shoe removal

http://i1069.photobucket.com/albums/u472/kaycomber1/IMG_3744.jpg

http://i1069.photobucket.com/albums/u472/kaycomber1/IMG_3743.jpg

 

 

 

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tatti

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I am putting Kevin Bacon on at the moment to help with chipping, should I  be drying them out instead?

Photos, the yard and part of the farm track from the stables to the field

 

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greyandbay

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greyandbay says:

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tatti said:

I am putting Kevin Bacon on at the moment to help with chipping, should I  be drying them out instead?

 



 

Ummmm - probably not the whole hoof, but the soles would need hardening, I would think......

I don't live anywhere near you so I don't know the barefoot trimmer, my farrier has managed our barefeet, all 16 of them, very well but I know some farriers are not so good with the barefoot idea. He has told me he reckons Cavallo boots are the best!

Good luck with your barefoot lady, I'm sure she'll have plenty of good advice to give :o)

The outside of a horse is good for the inside of a man - Winston Churchill

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Jojoey

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Jojoey says:

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Hi, I switched to barefoot with my horse about 18 months ago, the farrier was saying how his feet were always chipping, ripping or cracking from the shoes not to mention throwing one when you didnt want him to. So I looked into the hoof boots and showed them to the farrier who was not all that keen on them! (Prob meant he would lose out on £80 a time if I switched). I ended up going for the Easycare Glove boots as I wanted something that I could ride in and wouldn't come off no matter what the surface was like I was riding on. I bought some pads to go inside them which I think they cater for horses with different firmness for the pads and I remember seeing some with supports for the heel of the hoof.

My horse only has these on now if we go riding and loves them, not lost one so far plus saves me quite a bit of money on the farrier too as now I only pay for a trim when he needs it! I asked the farrier not so long ago what he thought of his feet and he said they are the best he has ever seen them, really strong and healthy. After telling him I went ahead and bought these boots, he said they were obviously the best thing for him!!!!

We only have the boots on the front feet and the back ones are now hard enough and file themselves down quite a bit on the roads! Look into the boots, there is a woman on ebay that sells them in pairs and so long as I didnt mark the boot, (my measurements were wrong when I bought the first pair, I ended up with a towel on the floor and clingfilm around his leg and hoof) she was happy to exchange and send out another pair for me! But I have never looked back!

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tatti

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Bit worried tonight, his front feet are very very warm, back ones cold, to touch.  he is walking sound on concrete and charged down the track with his cavallo boots so, isnt lame etc. Shall see how he is tomorrow I guess, Yesterday, he had an absolute mad fit in the field, while wearing his boots and galloped around for a good 5 minutes followed by lots of trotting and cantering, he didnt like the horses in the field next to him, silly boy. I am wondering if he has just bruised his feet in the process. I am having a bare foot lady out on the 27th. He has lost a big piece on the bottom of his hoof today, he is almost self trimming, the old fragile hoof at the bottom is chipping off continually but, the hoof is now an uneven mess! - The farrier didnt trim when we had the shoes removed, as there wasnt much to take away as he has had the shoes put back on 8 times in the past month due to pulling them off in the field and he didnt want him to go lame, so said just monitor it etc. What a nightmare, I have never looked at a horses feet so much in the past week, its like an obsession. Thanks for the link, I shall have a look at it in a minute, after a large glass of wine!!! - Have been told to use Simple Systems feed by another barefoot down our yard, I have rung them up and they have prescribed lucie fibre cubes, alfa alfa, total eclipse formula which provides all necessary hoof supplements e.g. sea weed, ash, biotin, linseed, mag etc plus pure linseed.

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tatti

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Other hoof that didnt down load yesterday, has a crack now on front

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tatti

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I have been posting on my other contribution 'TB Going Barefoot - Piccies' but, was asked how things were going, via this link - so this is what is happening with regards to Spirit our Ex Racehorse who was constantly ripping off his shoes in the field. He is now 8 weeks into going barefoot, although it feels a lot longer! His feet were a bit of a mess, I was lucky if it made it past two weeks, once he pulled off the same shoe 5 times in 2 weeks! And he even wore two sets of over reach boots, he would often stand on the side of the shoe and pull it to one side and back, causing trauma.

He is still barefoot, I had a lovely lBFT out two week ago called  and we went through his diet, turnout out etc. His back feet are doing really well, they usually do cope more quickly than the fronts, but the front hooves have separation between the lines and the outer hoof wall is peeling off and up towards the better hoof. His feet have grown so much since we had the shoes taken off, a good inch of new growth at the top. We have altered his diet and taken away all sugar and also kept an eye on his grass intake. I have had to keep on top of thrush in his feet,  by scrubbing with diluted Milton, he also had a touch of seedy toe in one of his front feet. We have had to go up a size in his Cavallo Hoof Boots which is great, as it shows that his feet are growing. The Barefoot Trimmer was unable to take any growth away as he needs to grow out the bad hoof, the outer wall annd white line is so delicate and paper thin that if she rasped, he would be lame, although the feet dont look pretty, he is sound. He is ridden booted up in the grass field. Booted for hacking and also booted to get him to the field and back as its a farm yard track. The Cavallo boots are very easy to put on and off and we couldnt have gone barefoot without them. Its a case of wait and see how we get on, I am taking each day at a time. He is sound on concrete when walked around the yard, which is amazing when considering how lame he used to be when he lost a shoe and there is no heat. 

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Micki

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Micki says:

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It is all sounding positive to say he has only been barefoot for 8 weeks and you didn't exactly get chance to change his diet over for 6 months before going barefoot which is what is recommended. Good to hear that his hooves have grown in size since the shoes have come off, i could tell a real difference with my girl as her contracted heels really came out nicely and wont be going back into shoes ever again. Hope you continue to see the benefits of barefoot and keep him that way. It certainly isn't the easy option but then shoes aren't an option when he rips them off that quickly.

Please keep us updated with his progress as i love hearing how he is getting on .

. .A horse is a thing of such beauty. . .none will tire of looking at him as long as he displays himself in his splendor. ~Xenophon https://www.facebook.com/browbandsandbracelets

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tatti

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tatti says:

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Hi Micki!

 

Starting to worry now, over the past few days, especially with the wet weather, the outer layer of the hoof has peeled away at an alarming rate right up to the old nail holes, thus exposing the inner layer which is sticking up like tobacco/straw at all angels, also lumps have started to come away from the bottom of the hooves and small cracks are appearing as well, he has grown his hoof rate so quickly over the past 3 weeks, its amazing, my bare foot trimmer wasnt due out until two weeks time and she was unable to do any trimming on her first visit last month as the outer hoof wall was paper thin from  rasping over the years plus he had no outer sole and she was worried that he would become lame if she interfered and just said, let him sort himself out etc and selft trim. Trouble is, one of the feet has the look of Donald Duck, its got so long. I spoke to her this morning and sent photos over via my mobile, she is coming out next week, but said that the outer layer will come away, its just how the bottom of the feet will cope and hopefully not collapse. He now looks worse than when we took the shoes off! - But, his feet are not hot and is walking sound accross the concrete yard without boots on.

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Micki

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Micki says:

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Try not to worry too much. I'm sure he will be ok if he is still sound. I would recommend joining this forum

http://phoenixhorse.myfastforum.org/index.php

It is for barefooters, there is loads of advice and some very knowledgeable people on there who will give you loads of advice. He will eventually get rid of his old hoof and only have good solid hoof there and hopefully then you wont be getting so many problems. The first year of barefoot is always the hardest as the horse has to grow a new hoof to cope with being barefoot and has to grow out the nail holes, which is a weakness in the hoof. It is certainly a very interesting journey though isn't it, even though it can very frustrating at times and worrying, but i can say it is worth it when you get to the other side and you have a horse with great feet and they don't need to wear shoes so you don't have to worry about them ripping them off.

. .A horse is a thing of such beauty. . .none will tire of looking at him as long as he displays himself in his splendor. ~Xenophon https://www.facebook.com/browbandsandbracelets

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tatti

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tatti says:

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Hi Micki, just joined and posted on there. thanks xx

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