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AMLS

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AMLS says:

Re: Hayledge

It amazes me how rude some people can be !!!

 

Rach82 wonder if you would be so rude if you were face to face rather than screen to screen ?!! You don't have to reply to any messages left on here so if you don't like Kevin's posted, stop replying !!! (I for one always find Kevin's posts interesting !!!)

I had never fed haylage until I went to work in Wales. Be careful how much you feed, you don't need nearly as much haylage as you would hay because it's more nutritious with a higher sugar content. It's also more palatable because of the higher moisture content. Do not feed it if it has any holes or tears in the bag however small as it should not be exposed to the air before use as it makes it go off inside the bag and it should be used within about 4 days because it starts to ferment. I wouldn't feed this stuff Kevin, it's supposed to smell pleasant and shouldn't have an mould present.

 

Hope this is helpful !!!

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kevinhiatt

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kevinhiatt says:

Re: Hayledge

My reaction to the stuff was don't use it even though the YO says ok but she would as she supplied it in the first place and get your money back, all I know it looked and smelled revolting, this is a genuine discussion from someone wanting to know more. You can only learn by asking from people who have knowledge of this stuff. I was taught by the Vet as well as the farrier the trick with Duct Tape when poulticing and the use of babies throw away nappies for poulticing, and then how to strip a mare (milk) all in the past year so always learning and willing to learn. Remember what Benny Hill said about an expert this was an EX was a has been and a Spurt was a drip under pressure and never assume as it makes an Ass of Me and You.

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3MoodyMaresMum

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Re: Hayledge

I stopped using haylage a few years ago, I used to have to have it for my TB whose a fussy madam!  It should smell sweet, but to be honest that is a personal preference I often felt it made me heave!  The white 'mould' is fine and can be eaten by the horses, and often haylage can be hot or warm inside.  To be safe always best to use within a week of opening this time of year and sooner in summer months.

There is a lot of confusion over amounts to feed because haylage has a higher water content than hay so in fact more is needed to make up the fibre requirements of the horse so weight for weight you should feed twice as much haylage - I got this from a Vet and a Nutrionist in 2009 when I was getting help feeding the TB.  Some horses with laminitis are fed haylage but I think on the whole it is a definate no, certainly my WB piled pounds on with haylage - before the laminitis days!  Yet my welshie had haylage mised with hay and did OK weight wise.

Personally I won't have it on my yard any more and prefer to use hay as better for the horse, also when I had haylage stored inside or out I always ended up with a rat problem I guess the sweet smell and then they would nibble the sacks allowing air into the bale rendering the bale useless unless you could use it straight away.  I ended up buying only enough haylage for a week or two!

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rhapsody

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rhapsody says:

Re: Hayledge

rach82, that was a wee bit strong.  Kevin did not deserve that.  I have been around horses all my life myself, but only started using haylage 2 years ago as financially it made more sense, so had to learn all about it at that point. 

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sammyseshi

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sammyseshi says:

Re: Hayledge

I would say anything you feed should have a pleasant smell, as madz says. If in doubt I wouldn't feed it! Hayledhe often 'settles' and drys out once unwrapped so often best left abit before disgarding it.

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equi

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equi says:

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madzjoker said:

if it's a bit white that's still fine to feed, you just have to use your common sense - like with all food, it shouldn't smell bad and if it does, don't feed it

it suits some horses, not others - personally I looove the smell of hayledge haha


Omg when i unwrap mine i stand for about 5 mins with my face planted in it sniffing hahaha.

 

Like has been said, looks bed its bad. Smells nice, its good. But i also kind of agree with Rach, it does seem to be the Kevin show at the mo and a lot of the posts are silly and get a lot of comments because of the arguments that always start. And i do think kevin enjoys that. 

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melxvengeance

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Re: Hayledge

i feed haylage, have done for years and it's great stuff. my horses love it, i don't need to feed as much so it saves money too.

 

white mould on it is okay, but if it smells bad then don't feed it. it is common for haylage to smell sweet, like vinegar or even like cider/alcohol but if it smells like rotten sewage like you said then it's definately not right so don't feed it.

 

i buy a bale of haylage ever week/week and a half and it's fine to use for that amount of time. i keep it ouside in my yard covered over with a tarp and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. the stuff i get is very good quality though

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lmao73

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lmao73 says:

Re: Hayledge

Dear Kevin....... we always use large haylage bales on our livery yard, the ones with black plastic wrapped around them..... I personally buy them from our livery YO and they last a full week + 4 to 5 days left out in the open under a normal green tarpolin.  Do not feed to your horses if hot as can be a cause of colic, but otherwise it is completely fine to feed.  As to the nasty comments on your status just ignore, phsycotic people often tend to degrade an honest question with their constant need for attention.  Hope i have at least answered your question.

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lmao73

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lmao73 says:

Re: Hayledge

kevinhiatt said:

Now I don't know much about hayledge especially the big bag stuff which when this one was opened smelled like raw sewage, also is very hot inside and has white mould, told its ok to use but glad I use hay. Please I want your thoughts on this as many other horse owners would be worried by this as well, told that the white mould is sugar mould and the horses love it, thoughts Laminitis if it is.


Kevinhiatt....... take out the mouldy bits and bag for throwing away.  Haylage does smell and sometimes as bad as vineager, as long as its cold when you feed it and take out the mouldy bits its perfectly fine for horses...... Its all we have on our yard and have never ever had a problem feeding it x

 

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rhapsody

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rhapsody says:

Re: Hayledge

Kevin, I hope the negative, if not very personal, comments you have received for posting a perfectly harmless and innocent question will not put you off updating us all on yours and Sabrina's antics.  I personally take my hat off to you and hope that when I reach your age (Godwilling) that I still have the confidence to do the things I do now which I take for granted.  To those who seem to be a bit jealous that Kevin is so popular, it just shows that the rest of us like Kevin as he never desparages anyone but does offer whatever insight he can into all our situations and tries to help where he can i.e. he exudes grace and humility which some would be wise to obtain - after all it costs nothing.

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