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Freckles821

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Freckles821 says:

Sluggish horse

i've got a 3yr QH/Arab mare. and she's really sluggish, while riding mostly. but when she's out with the herd, the other horses will be running and play, and most of the time she won't do more than a trot to keep up. when i first got her she had a cough, everytime she would try to neigh or when i would ride her, even at a walk. i took her to the vet, they checked her blood cell count, and everything checked out fine. i would then just ride her (not too lightly) every couple of days. the cough is gone, but she is still super slow. i know she can go fast though. because sometimes she does kick it up when i'm riding her. but thats getting rarer and rarer. she's had some time off, with light rides. any ideas? my sister says i should just sell her, or live with it.

my sister has a 2yr paint filly, and she runs and plays and is full of energy. and i \'m just thinking that maybe my 3yr old should at least have a little more engery, yes?

 

(my filly is one of the ones that usually ends up gettin picked on a little, even from the person i got her from, all the other horses would nip at her. and she has less, but i still find some bite marks on her)

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rhapsody

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rhapsody says:

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If she's checked out OK with the vet, then maybe you should look at her feed regime.  She may need something with vitamins in it that she could be lacking.  Best way to work out what she needs is to send an email to one of the feed companies and explain how she is, and what you currently feed her.  Also remember that she's only 3 so don't over feed her either or you could end up with joint problems.  It might not be the quantity of feed that is the problem here but the type of feed.  Has the cough gone away?  If not ask the vet about it again as she might need an antibiotic - never ever let a cough go untreated, if there is a bacteria involved it needs to be dealt with otherwise you could end up with a bigger problem e.g. gutteral pouch haemorrhage (I lost a much loved horse to this so I speak from experience).  Good luck with her x

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Freckles821

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Freckles821 says:

Re: Sluggish horse

the cough is gone. and all the horses are out to pasture, and in the winter i just feed them hay, sometimes with alfalfa, depends on what i can get.

all the horses eat the same thing. i think i'm going to look into getting a mineral block just for her, and give her access to it, like i would when i give my senior his feed. i've had a blcok in the past, but they all swarm it, and the bigger badder geldings tend to rule it more than the fillies.

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wundahoss

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wundahoss says:

Re: Sluggish horse

Hi,

Firstly, what was she checked out for at the vets? Is it possible they only tested her for direct causes of the cough? Did she have a thorough physical checkup to assess what body issues there may be? I would get that done, including a chiro or body expert to look over her. Her being listless in the paddock too & picked on by the other horses is not a great sign.

 

I would definitely NOT 'just sell her or live with it'. I believe in taking responsibiility for the health & wellbeing of the animals we have chosen to acquire - after all, if we just pass them on or ignore their issues, no one else is likely to bother either.

 

You don't say how long you've had her, how long she's been ridden for, but remember she's still an immature gangly 'teenager' and it's very possible that starting/riding her too young has caused physical injuries that cause her to be too sore to want to move much. I would only start riding a horse very lightly between the ages of about 3 & 5-6, waiting until the growthplates have fused, the horse is physically mature, before doing much at all. Other issues such as saddle fit, how she was trained/is ridden, hoof or leg problems, etc are other possible causes.

 

Re feeding & nutrition, if she's a good weight, it isn't likely to be lack of calories making her listless, but it's possible imbalanced/deficient nutrition is the cause, especially as it sounds like no one gets supplemented. Unfortunately mineral blocks are generally not well balanced - pretty much all salt - and a horse would have to lick one all day to get enough from it anyway. Perhaps that's why your 'big bad' horses hogged it - they obviously needed what's in it, but they never got enough not to feel they needed to own it. So... if you're going to go the mineral block route, I'd put out a number of them in the paddock, enough for everyone to get what they want from them, but I'd personally do that as an extra to otherwise supplementing their diets more effectively. I personally just put out straight rock salt in excess to their regular supps. You can either get powdered supplements that you add to a feed or you can choose pelleted 'ration balancers' that are able to be fed straight.

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Freckles821

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Freckles821 says:

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the vet had he walk tro lope, then he felt her down. the tests were to check her blood cell count to rule out an infection, as she had a nasty gash on her face when i got her. she had the cough when i first saw her, i know the people personally and i spent about two weeks just hanging out with the horse (i painted a fence in exchange for a horse.... and there was alot of fence) i do not plan on selling her, but i would like to figure out what's going on with her. this horse has helped me through some very tough times, personally and health wise. it would not be fair of me to not give her the same back. if she'll take it and i have enough, i will give all my strength to help her feel/get better.

i got her green broke, mid-summer last year. i took it slow with her, but she's a fast learner. as far as it being caused by 'starting too early' when she does get some bursts of energy, i can't feel anything wrong with the way she moves. i've checked her legs over more than once. i've checked her back and hips (i'm no chiro, but i have delt with some horses with sore backs and withers) and i couldn't find anything that felt wrong, and she did no more than keep an ear on me, curious of what i was doing.

i've actually really let up on her riding, to see if her energy would improve, but if anything its gotten slightly worse. she's an all around happy horse.... well towards me, she doesn't have any tolerance for my sister. they butt heads, and she's tried to kick my sister several times during winter feeding.

her weight is good, if anything she's put on some lbs. she's currently 14.2 ish (measured her leg and estimated she's not going to get hardly  any taller)and around 950lbs.

the others hog the block likes its a treat and feed. but again she's the only one with an obviously lack of energy or perhaps motivation.

if it's not a health reason, then i will do my best to be extra enthusiastic and hope it will become contagious. as far as being picked on, my sister's gelding in particular likes to be 'the man' around her, and at first she would kick him, but now rarely. its like she doesn't care much anymore. but she does seem a little aggressive towards the toher filly. which makes me second guess injury. perhaps even a pinched nerve. but again i couldn't find any sensitive spots.

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Freckles821

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Freckles821 says:

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!!!!! she's also an itchy horse, not like sweetitch. but if there's something for her to scratch on she'll do it. i know its not worms though. we keep all our horses UTD on de wormers.

but yes, she's an itchy horse, and she likes to shake quite a bit. mostly just ehr head when riding though (i think because she has a rider on, not that it's always stopped her) but she shakes her head like her mane is tickling her eyes or ears. i've tried braiding her forelock and bridlepath out of the way, but didn't notice a difference.

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rhapsody

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rhapsody says:

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She looks like a sweet wee thing, and your place looks like heaven to me!  When you say she shakes her head a bit, could there be an issue with her teeth?  Might be worth having them looked at, just in case there's a reason why they might be causing her some discomfort, that might mean she's not getting the best from her food if they're sore and she's not chewing it properly, therefore the absorption of the vital nutrients won't occur, even if she's appearing to eat well.  Just a thought, might be worth thinking about.  I don't know if you  have equine dentists in your part of the world, or even any where near you, but your vet should be knowledgable enough to carry out a thorough examination of her mouth.

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Freckles821

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Freckles821 says:

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rhapsody said:

She looks like a sweet wee thing, and your place looks like heaven to me!  When you say she shakes her head a bit, could there be an issue with her teeth?  Might be worth having them looked at, just in case there's a reason why they might be causing her some discomfort, that might mean she's not getting the best from her food if they're sore and she's not chewing it properly, therefore the absorption of the vital nutrients won't occur, even if she's appearing to eat well.  Just a thought, might be worth thinking about.  I don't know if you  have equine dentists in your part of the world, or even any where near you, but your vet should be knowledgable enough to carry out a thorough examination of her mouth.



 

it is something to consider, but her weight is good. and, though i rarely do, when i put a bit in she takes it no problem. we have equine dentists, i guess i could call them, and they're the ones that float the teeth and such. she enjoys putting things in her mouth. she would lead herself around by the rope if i let her.

and thanks :) its mostly cold and windy here, and we don't get much rain, but it is still paradise

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Freckles821

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Freckles821 says:

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the cough is back. after doing some research i think she might have COPD. i know the vet said it might be a possibility, but then it went away. and that would explain her being sluggish, that was listed as a symptom. but i think she would need drugs, because she's not stabled, ever, and i can't change her winter hay, but its not molded, it still all fresh and dry.

time to make another appointment, wish her luck and cross your fingers

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rhapsody

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rhapsody says:

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Hope she is OK, keeping all fingers and hooves crossed here for you x

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Freckles821

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Freckles821 says:

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just got her back from the vet. she's been diagnosed with IAD

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