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Cocosmom

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Cocosmom says:

Re: Back up Plan

Really glad she seems to have settled in with her new buddies! Warmbloods can be rather complex neddies, angellic one minute but if they are not happy they will let you know the only way they know how which in a warmbloods case as they tend to be so big, means throwing your weight around a bit to get their point across! Coco is an absolute gentle giant and so well mannered and soft, however put him in a stable for too long or take his buddies away from him and he turns from my lovely 16.3 boy into 18hand monster with a mega temper tantrum! I have learned over the years how to handle his little exciteable explosive moments but he puts my skills to the test! He makes my hot head ex racer and my old rig seem easy but its because he is so much more complex in the way he thinks and unpredictable than they were!

 

Sure you will find her to be a different horse now she is in a bigger yard with space to run and buddies but if you do ever struggle with her, just shout as I'm only 20 mins away from you so will happily come and try some of Coco's methods on her and see if they are warmblood proof!

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kevinhiatt

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kevinhiatt says:

Re: Back up Plan

Sabrina is now kept at Shenstone just off the Chester Road (A452) going to Brownhills and the yard has a sand arena, also they hold shows in the summer. Her and the other mare plus a pony I found in the next field to where they were put in the morning a big metal gate had been opened they had joined some more horses. When I do clip possibly will have to use sedalin as many do, but sabrina could possibly surprise me in a good way for a change, the girls on the yard have fallen in love with my mare and think she is lovely.

Gypsy Gold does not chink & glitter.It gleams in the sun and neighs in the dark.Tonka & Lara my beautiful horses RIP, Nelson,Chloe & Kitty the cats.

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AMLS

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AMLS says:

Re: Back up Plan

Good to hear things are looking up she'll 100% benefit from the company of others I know my Belgian warmblood loves to play, he was at a yard where only individual turnout 3 times a week was offered stabled the rest of the time and it was not suiting him, just cranky all the time so I moved him to the same yard my Dutch warmblood is at which offers all year round turnout daily in groups and he is like a different horse !!! So settled and more relaxed they need so much to occupy their minds, warmbloods very smart horses and the change was the best thing for him. He came up with a new game during the summer pulling all the fly masks of his buddies in the field haha he got very good at it !!!

 

Can't wait to hear how you get on !!!

 

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Cocosmom

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Cocosmom says:

Re: Back up Plan

I know the A452, actually I was on it on Sunday night! will definitiely have to come and see you one of these days!

If you could borrow someones clippers it would be worthwhile seeing how she is with the noise and vibrations of the clippers before you actually attempt to clip. Coco was petrified of the sight of them before I even turned them on and after 2 weeks desensitisation, 5 - 10 mins a day he now realises they wont eat him and actually falls asleep with the vibrations! Worth spending a bit of time trying to get them used to them if you can!

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SarahEsen

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SarahEsen says:

Re: Back up Plan

Thank goodness Kevin she is in a place where she can be a horse. I hope you can soon be doing lots of groundwork and build some trust in that new sand school. :)

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kevinhiatt

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kevinhiatt says:

Re: Back up Plan

Tonight when she was brought in and I took over to take her back into her stable she refused and had to be coaxed, then she tried to nip me then nudged I think its I want a fuss take notice of me. Next box to her is a tiny pony whose nose you just see at the top of the door and that is when it raises its nose right up, was being taken in by the owners and Sabrina gave a whicker of greeting to this pony who returned the wicker, this pony wants to be friends to everyone.

Gypsy Gold does not chink & glitter.It gleams in the sun and neighs in the dark.Tonka & Lara my beautiful horses RIP, Nelson,Chloe & Kitty the cats.

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happyrain

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happyrain says:

Re: Back up Plan

 hurray! hopefully now she has turnout and friends she will stop being a moody madam and settled down and just maybe even become the lovely horse you deserve. i'm pleased for you both x

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kevinhiatt

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kevinhiatt says:

Re: Back up Plan

This morning Sabrina wickered to me, but when put out at the same time with the other Warmblood Mare and Pony the other mare hated Sabrina and was friends with the pony, told this happens all the time with that mare, but tomottow could be different, thats Mares for you and it looks like especially Warmbloods, this breed is a new experience for me, Gypsy Cobs lovely, ex-Racehorses lovely, Warmbloods HELP! This after 45 years riding and 22 years Horse owner, proves you are always learning and cannot ever know everthing and be an expert, if I did not already realize this I would have had a bigger shock than I did already. In Engineering especially R & D the saying was you have'nt seen it all yet, and if it can go wrong it will, we were known for funny smells, explosions and flashes oops!

Gypsy Gold does not chink & glitter.It gleams in the sun and neighs in the dark.Tonka & Lara my beautiful horses RIP, Nelson,Chloe & Kitty the cats.

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Cocosmom

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Cocosmom says:

Re: Back up Plan

Ah horses will be horses sometimes they get on, sometimes they have squabbles but it does take a week or so for the herd hierarchies to get sorted and settled so I wouldn;t worry abou the other mare! Coco was evicted from the herd when I 1st bought him, the other 2 grazed at one end and he wasn;t allowed with them. After a coupl eof weeks it was apparent that he had become top neddy in the herd and they did exactly as he wanted them to do!

 

Sounds a bit like Sabrina is testing the boundaries with you too, refusing to move and being coaxed in and nipping are all signs that she doesn't respect you as her top human! The top neddy in a herd ensures the subservient horses move where he/she choses them to and the subservient horses  would never dream of nipping or kicking the top neddy! Coco again was like this, sweet as anything on some days and just point blank refused to move or do what I asked on other days. I did find with him that Kelly Marks book Perfect Manners helped us a lot. We did loads of ground work, min 5 mins every day and always took it slow and ended on a good note. if he ever gets a little bolshy, stubborn or just a bit wayward we do some ground work and it reminds him that I am the one who decides when and where he is to move and he comes back down to earth within minutes. It never involves gettign angry its just consistent assertive body language and training. Please please please dont reinfoce the unwanted behaviour, nipping and napping (unless caused by genuine fear or nervousness in which case she needs your strong leadership to assure her she is safe and can trust you) by giving her attention and cuddles, by doing this she has trained you very very well to dance to her tune which is a bad road to go down with such a big and clearly intelligent horse!

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kevinhiatt

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kevinhiatt says:

Re: Back up Plan

Tonight oh heck! went to take her in she was walking along in the field till she sees me and the other owners with headcollars and lead ropes Sabrina is put out with a headcollar on and guess what she canters away then a younger more nimble chap goes in the next field she was in now and Sabrina turns her back on him and bucks out with both back feet and gallops around swinging her head a complete nutter, eventually came up to be caught, then when taken into stable goes to take a bite out of me. I think I will wait to seehow she is till after xmas then in the new year will make a decision if to put her up for sale or even make a swap, but would not like to see her ending in the glue factory even though I told her that tonight. I thought it was me who was losing my touch but not so if she reacts like she does for everyone if rated dangerous will send her for retraining as a last resort.

Gypsy Gold does not chink & glitter.It gleams in the sun and neighs in the dark.Tonka & Lara my beautiful horses RIP, Nelson,Chloe & Kitty the cats.

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