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debzy1987

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debzy1987 says:

Stable Attitude..Advise needed please.

Hey!

So this is my 1st week of loaning my new horsey. he's a riding school horse,16.3h normandy cob.

He's the perfect gentleman to ride,can spook a bit and sometimes be lazy untill you get him going apart from that he's been great to help get my confidence up.so i decided to take him on 6months loan and he is practically mine,the school can use him 8hours a week.

Anyways... Had a bit of a concern im not sure if im dealing with properly. When i go in the stable he goes to the back and puts him bum to me. ive been giving him treats to coax him to me to groom him and he stands fine once you start grooming him but ive noticed if i walk over to my kit to get another brush etc he does it again and keeps walking away,ears back and bum to me. im not usually a nervous person in the stable but he is a huge boy and im obviously not sure of his temperment yet so being a bit wary. Anyone any ideas how i can get him to be my friend lol. I wasnt sure if always treating him when i change brushes to get him to me was a great idea?

 

Thanks in advance,

Debz

Debbi xxx - Owns my very own 'Shetland Pony' - Monty my Bernese Mountain Dog :)

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gemCal

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gemCal says:

Re: Stable Attitude..Advise needed please.

My mare does that occassionally if she's in 'one of them moods'. I tend to ignore her, sometimes I'll wonder off and muck out, or concentrate on her hooves and that way she'll let me work her way back up to her head and hold her again. If she's in one of those moods I tend to tie her up to groom, as it saves her hiding in the corner each time. Could you tie him up? Make a fuss of him once he's tied up, give him a good groom and then a treat at the end.

It'll probably just take time. Good luck.

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Bardybear

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Bardybear says:

Re: Stable Attitude..Advise needed please.

Oooh, I've never heard of a normandy cob!  Can you put a photo up of him?  I would go in with one mint (for a few days only) and a headcollar and tie him up.  There's no reason why he should be at liberty when you need to groom him and pick his feet out.  I would start now by establishing what you will and what you won't tolerate.  Don't worry, he won't love you less, he'll actually respect you more because he'll know 'you have the power'!  I definitely wouldn't give him too many treats.  My horse is a greedy so-and-so and I've had to ban everyone from giving him treats, otherwise, especially when I need to undo his rug at the front, he is mouthing me all the time.  This is just a step away from biting me, which I really don't want him to do, so the only time he gets a couple of mints is straight after I've ridden him. 

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SuzyA

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SuzyA says:

Re: Stable Attitude..Advise needed please.

It's early days, you need to establish yourself as the leader.  It may take a bit of time.  Whilst in the stable with him make sure your'e keeping an eye on his body language to keep yourself safe.  Ideally you want him to yield his bum away from you.  I'd suggest doing some inhand exercise in your field or school.  Leading him round, asking him to stand, asking him to walk on, asking him to move his bum when you push it gently, asking him to move his forehand over when you push him gently on the shoulder, asking him to move backwards, these are just some of the things you can do.  This will all help you both along your journey of becoming better pals and gaining mutual trust and respect.  Let us know how it goes  (in answer to your question about treats - not always the best idea, it can lead to them searching you for food and worse case scenario may lead to biting)  Horses understand reward by using pressure and release.

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Fenris

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Fenris says:

Re: Stable Attitude..Advise needed please.

 I agree with bardybear - tie him up until he learns to be more respectful, and go easy on thesweeties or he will come to expect them as a right rather than a treat! 

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debzy1987

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debzy1987 says:

Stable Attitude..Advise needed please.

Thanks for the advise, i would usually tie a horse up for a bit of control but unfortunately his headcollar i had from him didnt fit (full size) So ive ordered an extra full size one and will take it from there.

ive not got any decent recent photos of him but here are a few. :)

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Debbi xxx - Owns my very own 'Shetland Pony' - Monty my Bernese Mountain Dog :)

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kevinhiatt

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kevinhiatt says:

Re: Stable Attitude..Advise needed please.

Your first week explains it all, he is trying you out and seeing how far he can push his luck, my Gypsy Cob tried this even with raised hoof as a warning just carried on and took no notice then when he tried taking chunks out of me kissed him on the nose it worked, ended up great mates for 21 years and even guarded me when I went into a coma for 3/4hr, never had to take a crop to Tonka. The new horse on the otherhand tried to get her own way by rearing and at 17.2h not funny and she was stopped with my 40year old riding crop a type you cannot buy thick leather with a whale bone core so very floppy and with a very wide end.

Gypsy Gold does not chink & glitter.It gleams in the sun and neighs in the dark.Tonka & Lara my beautiful horses RIP, Nelson,Chloe & Kitty the cats.

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Micki

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Micki says:

Re: Stable Attitude..Advise needed please.

I would tie him up everytime you go to groom him. Atleast that way he wont be able walk away from you and you will be able to let him know that you are the boss. You really need to establish that with him and he will then respect you and behave.

I also don't give treats to often as Charlie was a biter and i have finally got him to stop.

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kevinhiatt

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kevinhiatt says:

Re: Stable Attitude..Advise needed please.

Both the horses I have handled myself did not like being tied up and my old Tonka was even never tied up as he would need twitching to clip so never tied up and he went to sleep. Lara panics if tied all so I wonder has someone has hurt her while tied up, now loves cuddles and head rubs and everyone has fallen in love with her.

Gypsy Gold does not chink & glitter.It gleams in the sun and neighs in the dark.Tonka & Lara my beautiful horses RIP, Nelson,Chloe & Kitty the cats.

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