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debzy1987

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debzy1987 says:

Dealers?

Hi,

I took some peoples advice on here i foned the local Horse Dealer. I told him what i was looking for and he told me he has a Cobby type 9yr old dark bay mare with white blaze 15.1h chunky,lots of bone, little feather on the back. He's asking for £1100.00 for her. She will Hack out fine and is ridden away quietly by his 14yr old just now.(This is what he's told me on the phone) He said i get a week warrenty to return her.I can get vetted before i take her or arrange it in my own time during the week. I can go see her and try her out etc.

The problem is.... I dont have a clue what to look out for or what to ask. I was always a bit wary of dealers also, i mean if she is the way he says...why is she so cheap? I dont really know anyone horsey that i can ask to come with me. My dads words are always you get what you pay for? Why are they selling it? Whats the catch? And he keeps saying he doesnt know enough in the way of buying a horse these days so he's hard to convince.

I think im getting myself worked up about it all. I know the right horse will come up but its even harder when i had everything all ready and Phoenix was ment to arrive yesturday (fell through due to bad stories and underlying health problems) I just want someone to hand me a decent horse without all the stress lol.

Debbi xxx - Owns my very own 'Shetland Pony' - Monty my Bernese Mountain Dog :)

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debzy1987

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debzy1987 says:

Re: Dealers?

Its Tom Dunbar in airdrie, Someone on here reccomended to give him a phone. tbh he seemed more helpful than the guy i spoke to at turlood stables.

With regards to price can you make an offer? And what would you offer?

Would be good if someone from here with more experience could come with me for a second opinion. :)

Debbi xxx - Owns my very own 'Shetland Pony' - Monty my Bernese Mountain Dog :)

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beckaroo

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beckaroo says:

Re: Dealers?

the guy you'll have spoken to at turlood is Billy, he's just a bit rough round the edges! pricewise - you can't tell till you've seen it and sat on it! Tom Dunbar - mixed reviews, but he sells a lot of horses, quickly, and cheap so quality varies. He was done a while ago for illegal tail docking of puppies so not always a legit character but then I've heard of some nice quiet horses coming from him. Do you have an instructor to take with you?

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debzy1987

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debzy1987 says:

Re: Dealers?

Yeah i googled him and read about the tail docking trial.

Ive only had a handful of lessons at my current riding school and dont think i would ask them to come with me.

I'm kinda scared to go look. I know im a sucker for a sad face. Also i watched a video on youtube about Dealers before and some of the pics where horrid :-( Whats the general condition of his place? Does he usually have lots of horses? I think if i was more confident i wouldnt mind as much,but as i need something pretty reliable and quiet to gain confidence i dont want to go buy something im scared off or puts me off.

Debbi xxx - Owns my very own 'Shetland Pony' - Monty my Bernese Mountain Dog :)

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pippixox

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pippixox says:

Re: Dealers?

there is no reason why you shouldnt see the passport straight away- make sure it deffinatly matches the horse! my friend bort a 7 year old, according to passport, but she was actually 3! make sure details match- like the markings.

if you can have a week trail that is good as it is long enougth to find out things. if in the worse case they have drugged up the horse for example to keep it lame, this would wear off, and you can get it vetted.

yes there are some dealers yards which are awful, lots of horses in bad condition, massive lies and mark ups in price. but there are also honest dealers as well- who can find you the rite horse as they have a range.

good luck!

my horses are my medicine, without them im even more crazy!

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paigeg142

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paigeg142 says:

Re: Dealers?

hi ,

i have been to toms reacently and my friend bought 2 horses of him both were very nice and at one point when my friend wasnt sure of something (cant remember what it was) she just phone him up and he was very helpful   the ponies were the same when they had  been taken home , and tbh nearly every horse i know has been at his at one point ! my riding schools horses all came from him and my pony and a lot of my friends have too ! lol  he doesnt have an arena you just ride them up and lane beside a feild and his son rides them first and then you do what you like and he has lots of different horses there :)

soo i would definently give him a go

good luck !!

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rhapsody

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rhapsody says:

Re: Dealers?

Hi,

My friend and her dad are dealers and also run a stud.  When someone comes to see theirs they are groomed, handled and tacked up in front of the prospective buyer, then they are ridden by my friend on both reins showing all paces and popped over a jump if that's what's required.  They are then ridden by the buyer and if my friend thinks it's not the right horse for the person she will say so, as it's her business reputation and the horse's wellbeing that's most important to her.  All horses are open to inspection by whatever vet the buyer wishes to use and my friend will handle them and ride them for the vet when he comes.  The buyer is welcome to come and see the horse as many times as they want and to ride the horse to help make up their mind, but not to remove it from her yard as if they don't buy it she needs to know that it's not coming back "broken" so to speak.  She's based in Ayrshire and her website is www.lochlibostud.com

 

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beckaroo

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beckaroo says:

Re: Dealers?

 not all dealers are dodgy! Rhapsody that sounds like your pal's yard is very legit and just what a dealer's yard should be.

 

Debzy - there'd be no issue with you asking your instructor to come I am sure - they will have seen you ride and hopefully be a knowledgeable person who can help you out!

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happyrain

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happyrain says:

Re: Dealers?

 one of the things we do if someone we know wants to buy a new horse 'but they are a bit novicey,  is to get a good rider to go with them. the "good" rider then pretends they are a total novice and rides the horse just about as badly as they can to see both the horse's and the dealers reaction. if the horse plays up well it obviously wouldn't suit a total novice and if the dealer still keeps saying it will be fine when you get it home then he's not onest and not worth dealing with. i do know several very good dealers who are selling horse dirt cheap as no one is really buying. the most important thing you can do is be honest about what you can and cant do and what you need the horse for. make a simple checklist and tick off the bits the horse does do and get the dealer to sign a contract stating the horse is suitable for your requirements, et it witnessed so its legal. also see if you can negotiate the warranty as most dealers i know will give you atleast a month to assess the horse at home.

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sophieschoice

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Re: Dealers?

 I bought a horse from Tom Dunbar recently but although his horses are cheap please beware of what he doesen,t tell you,  the horses are sold from the field as an excuse not to reveal any hidden problems, in my case unable to pick feet up and 4 inches taller than he said, I bought him because I felt sorry for the horse, his farm is really tatty with broken fencing and is  rough, also if you have occasion to want to challenge him with your purchase he does not want to know...takes your cash and then ignores you.If I were you I would buy privately and take an experienced person with you, that way you will get something suitable and you can always discuss prices with owners, many are desperate to sell in these times so you could get a lot of horse for your money.

Hope you find a lovely cob soon.

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