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debby1111

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debby1111 says:

Grr . getting miserable!!

oh well , i've had cressy for a year and a month now . and she's still totally scared of jumping . i entered 3 shows with her . first 1 i got disqualified after the second jump she kep on refusing . otehr 1 we went clear and otehr we came second . jump off went a bit slower than d winner , oh well . I thaught that we were getting somewhere . but after that bang !! her confidence went down just like that ! it took me 4 months ot get her over a pole with confidence ... which pole work now isnt a porblem for her . when it comes to jumping she spooks at the firs couple of small fences but then she starts going ... 50cm - 60cm she's not that abd with them .. until she gets the hang of it . the other day .. my sister was watching me working with her .. and we had a 65cm oxer and she was bravely jumping it with good striding everything . my sister insisted to put it a hole higher and i said no ... but she told me that shes doing well and she will do it. even tho i didnt want to do it because i knew how cress's reaction would be .. i still tried , she went for it but at the very last second at the take off point she stopped . which made me frustrated again . i tried twice and it was useless than i've put it very low again she refused . than i got a bit angry at her . i just calmed down and did some circles infront of the fence and approached again . she jumped it . but what worries me is if  im ever  gonna go anywhere with this mare? she's a good jumper . but she scared , i had a lesson with a foregn instructor we jumped 90cm from a trot. she ha sthe potential to do it . but she's too scared i suppose . i dunno . tell me what u think

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debby1111

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debby1111 says:

Re: Grr . getting miserable!!

help pls

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Happyglowie

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Happyglowie says:

Re: Grr . getting miserable!!

How does she feel when she's approaching the fence? Does she feel tense going into it, or is she reluctant to do it?

Personally I try to steer clear of doing circles right in front of the fence (sorry not sure if you did do this) but i'm never quite sure if i'm adding to the horses knowledge that they could run out or refuse to jump it if i let them circle in front first (I may be wrong there but if I ever need to circle I do it away from the jump)

To your knowledge has she been overjumped and is just not enjoying it anymore and could do with a break from it, or do you think it's something deeper than this?

Providing everything is ok, i.e no pain anywhere which would stop her from jumping (back/muscles etc) as this would impact her and she's fine when you are doing flatwork and you have no other problems then i'm not sure what to suggest other than perhaps just sticking to your smaller fences or just leaving out jumping and doing something different for a while (plenty of hacks etc) so she's a bit more fresher with the jumping. It sounds like she was doing really well in the classes, especially with getting placed so she was obviously fine before (as you said)

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horsemadcountrygirl

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Grr..getting miserable

Sometimes a complete break and change of routine helps.  Try something different.  From springtime onwards there should be a number of fun rides you can go on which consist of a few miles of off road riding and often these have optional jumps too.  The jumps are usually fairly easy so that everyone can have a go - like straw bales or tyres or brush fences or logs.  Find a friend with a good jumping pony/horse that will go along with you and just have fun.  Let the jumping pony lead the way over the fences and you may find that your pony forgets he's anxious and gets into the swing of it...that's how I got my horse jumping....cantering across the fields with the wind in his mane!  Sometimes they just freak out at the menage /show jumps/ schooling ritual and jumping out on a ride or hack gives them a whole new perspective and most importantly you relax too. 

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debby1111

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debby1111 says:

Re: Grr . getting miserable!!

she had a month break from jumping .. all i did is lunged her and hack her .. for a month . well when i approach the jump or she stops at the last minute . to point this up she doesnt shy at the sides . she just breaks infront of it and hesitates and sometimes she just loses impulsion and stops infront of it. I was thinking last night , thatmaybe she doesnt enjoy it at all ... maybe it really scares her! she's a sweet mare . but when it comes to this she loses it and starts acting foolish and scared.But i want to improve in this sport .I think its better to move on..

maybe she would be better with a happy hacker or a dressage rider

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tipsy_296

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tipsy_296 says:

Re: Grr . getting miserable!!

i havent seen you ride but, you might possible be taking your leg off too early, i had a pony very similar to what your saying, you need plenty of leg to encourage her and to give the confidence to go over, even if its pony club kicks! Remember also not to give your hands away, you could be coming up to the jump being over enthusiatic and droppping your hands at the last minute, keep them strong with good contact, keep looking beyond the jump, not at it, if she is lacking in confidence you need to provide it to her through your riding, id keep low, as for schooling, id work with poles, then put i tiny cross at the end and really build up to there, grid work has been so beneficial to all my horses, whether they are right devils or an honest gg that just needs to be taught what to do.

Also never circle away from a fence if she refuses, make her go over it, or through it, doesnt matter, poles will fall and it wont hurt. But circling away reinforces the run out or choice to refuse if she goes over it someway or other it at least your on the other side.

Best of luck!

xx

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Tommytank

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Tommytank says:

Re: Grr . getting miserable!!

Tommy sometimes does  the not quite sure maybe I will stop routine.  My instructor made me ride with more determination, a different mind set, guarenteed if im not sure tommys not sure he can mind read.  My instructor got me to do a couple of courses with really really short reins and leaning forward as far as a jockey so my legs were properly on all the way round and we flew round over everything but in my mind I was absolutly going over the lot of them properly and he did. 

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lulaclaire

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lulaclaire says:

Re: Grr . getting miserable!!

im going to be naughty and say i havent read the previous posts but you've pretty much described my horse. when i first got him he'd seen well practically no coloured poles and really didnt get the idea of SJ but gave it ago showing true potential. 

He started behaving really well but always lacked a certain confidence and really fed off of me. his main problem was jumping really well at home then going out and couldnt even get over the first fence. so as the years have gone on some days he will fly anything and only wants to jump (like he did last night trot poles ARE for jumping) and other times he cant even walk over a pole. ive had it where hes even gone to take off then as hes lifted his front feet theyve promptly come down, slammed on brakes and ditched out! not fun!!

 

i find because rushing is his problem and he cant prepare for the fence. so working on (as youve done) trotting into them controlled and letting them stretch their noses so they can see the fence. also circling infront of fence so it gets to the point youre almost teasing them and they want to go over it. also i found walk towards the fence then maybe 3 strides out trot go over the fence then stop after. it really gets them listening to you! i think the key is for you to always stay confident that you CAN get over the fence and really push for it, eventually she'll get the idea.

 

its very easy to write down i know, i dont do alot with mine anymore as i just dont have the confidence but i know if it as there we could achieve alot!

I hope youve managed to pick something useful out of my waffle :)

 

lula

 

..i just read shakeys bit-i wish gridwork worked for me very jealous :( Spen just sees it as one big attack of the coloured poles and refuses to go anywhere near them!! lol

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Micki

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Micki says:

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Your horse sounds like Danser. I found that Danser had no confidence at shows for jumping so i stopped trying to get her to jump and went into showing. She had a good couple of years off from jumping and then i started doing combined training and ode's and she was jumping fantastic but she still had a very dirty stop on her, she would lift her front feet up to jump and then slam them back down and spin around to get away from the jump. If your horse really isn't happy jumping try doing some dreassage or showing with her. If she enjoys it then you'll either have to go down a different route to what you first intended or sell her on to a home for dreassage or showing or hacking.

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debby1111

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debby1111 says:

Re: Grr . getting miserable!!

well i tried gridwork with cres .. she stops at the first , when i actually get her over the first she stops for the second and .. she wont go over the third . She's spooky , and sometimes she stops infront a fence , and i keep her infront of it , and she starts like doing piaffe infront of it with loads of panic and hasitation , well i dont want her to be mentally abused about this kind of work . but i bought her to retrain her for jumping .. well i tried for quite some time and jumping just isnt for her .

for me its time to move on . i dont want to scare her even more

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natalie.123

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natalie.123 says:

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hi, havent read all the posts in detail but i am gonna risk getting my head bitten off here........  if she is scared of the fences and you are anticipating her stopping then she will be feeling that from you too and then you get the vicious circle effect.  you want her to go but are maybe hesitant in the approach waiting for something to happen and as she is not sure either she just says right i will stop then?

If you dont want to try dressage, or any other discipline with her then maybe it is fairer for both of you to part company and you get a proven jumper to go out and have fun with?

nat

 

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