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gemmakai

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gemmakai says:

Whats the best calming supplement ?

Just got back in from riding and once again Psycho has been a pain and highly strung , trying to bomb off , prancing and bucking on the spot , spinning and being a complete prat . He's not usually that bad , normally have a few spins and jog trotting but i rode in the rain today so didnt help . His behavior doesnt scare me and we did manage to ride out for a few hours  with a friend but the whole time he was jmping about all over the place where i used to find it funny its gotten a bit tiresome now and i would like to be able to ride him without having to leap about everywhere and just chill . His tack fits fine , no back problems , saw farrier the other day so not feet and his teeth have been checked . Spoke to his owner and apparantly he used to have his old riders off almost daily but he used to be stabled 24/7 day and night  and fed up to his eye balls so not surprising really. He lives out 24/7 now and has highfibre nuts purely for the weight but they a specifically designed for weight not energy. I have had mixed feedback about the calming supplement route . I just want something that will help him relax and take that edge of him so that everytime i want to ride i don't have to put up with his behaviour. Anyone know of any good supplements as there are so many on the market its hard to choose ? Gem x

Psycho , we're walking on sunshine

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rachelha

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rachelha says:

Re: Whats the best calming supplement ?

i use top spec calmer, im not sure how well it works though... sometimes i can see the difference but sometimes shes a loony... i think the calmer that madz has is meant to be good too but cant remember what it was so might have to ask her!

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halls882

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halls882 says:

Re: Whats the best calming supplement ?

Equimins Serenity is a very good magnesium calmer - i tried NAF magic but it didn't work, spoke to Equimins and they informed me that the quantities of magnesium in NAF magic are not even good enough for cows so i was wasting my money.

i got some Serenity for my crazy cob while he was on box rest

unfortunately calmers don't always work - it depends on the horse. for my horse they didn't work - he is just naturally crazy and full of beans so i've had to learn to live with it.

if a horse has a magnesium deficiency it can cause their brain to stop working properly (synapses and all that jazz) like an epileptic fit which is why magnesium calmers have proven to be highly effective in most cases (except for my horse!)

you'll have to try some and see what works for your horse whether herbal calmers will suffice or whether you need to try a magnesium calmer

Yes…my horse really is called “The Brown Horse”

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gemmakai

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gemmakai says:

Re: Whats the best calming supplement ?

Thanks :) I'll have a go with both and see what works best for him . He's just so silly all the time , he even spooked at my friends horse having a wee because he didnt like the sound and decided to have a bucking fit , I hope they work for him as its such a pain lol Gem x

Psycho , we're walking on sunshine

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kap29

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kap29 says:

Re: Whats the best calming supplement ?

hi

try a company called natural horse supplies they do a supplement called calcuim magnesium which is supposed to be great.

ive used the naf magic syringe cant say it made alot of differance but suppose you can never say for sure !

i know its a pain but have you tried lungeing for 1/2 before your ride it may just help take the beans out.

i just feed dobson & horrels pasture mix mixed with alfa hay, make sure them nuts dont have hidden heating properties in them although some say non heating just check whats in them ! good luck and let us know what you get and how it goes x

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tomsnout

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tomsnout says:

Re: Whats the best calming supplement ?

Hi ya,

I'm going to watch this thread carefully because I could do with the same advice really. I have tried NAF Magic and Blue Chip Karma without effect. It's interesting that kap29 mentions calcium magnesium because I've heard that whatever the calming supplement you choose, it needs to have the calcium in it to allow the magnesium to work?

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lexipuppy

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lexipuppy says:

Re: Whats the best calming supplement ?

i know alot of people who swear by equine americas magnitude

 

my friend owns a warmblood gelding and we wasn't sure weather it was working (didn't know wether we needed to up the dose etc) so we left him off it for 3 days and holy **** yes it was working lol its about £18.99 for a 6 month supply :)

i also knew someone who used it for there hussy mare lol and she wasn't as mareish come her season

discuss matters with a stallion, ask a mare nicely, and tell a gelding :)

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xmiriam2003x

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xmiriam2003x says:

Re: Whats the best calming supplement ?

I am in the process of trying to find a suitable calmer for my mare, as she is good as gold at the yard but whenever I take her somewhere else, even if it's just down the road to my instructor's or on a group hack, she gets really spooky and naughty. In my experience the magnesium calmers (i've tried loads such as magic, carl hester, NAF) and bach-type flower remedies are a complete rip off & waste of money. Having said that some people swear by them.

I have also heard lots of people say that oxyshot syringe is good but I have never tried it because it's about £12 for a single syringe, and personally I cannot see how it can work, its just salty water!!

However, I think the st john's wort or valerian based calmers are a lot more effective  although be aware valerian is banned under competition rules. I am going to try gold label equival plus which is st johns wort&valerian. Gold label also do one called equikalm which is valerian and b vitamins- these have a mood stabilising effect (i have taken b vitamin complex myself as it is good for PMT lol ;-) 

You'll find one thats right for you in the end, it's just trial and error but it does work out expensive! If you decide to go down the magnesium route I actually read in horse answers on thiswebsite (this was written by a vet so i assume it's reliable!)  that epsom salts (magnesium sulphate) can be used instead of these expensive supplements such as magic. You can buy it in big tubs from chemist shops and it only costs about £4, the thing is though unless your horse is deficient in magnesium (which mine obviously wasn't when i tried it) then it's not goin to work

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MizzPurpleKitten

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Re: Whats the best calming supplement ?

I too use Magninute by Equine America as do a couple of others on the yard I'm on and we all love it.....it makes a very very subtle difference in that it seems to change the horse's nervous energy into working energy....they seem to concentrate better and have a much better attitude all round when on the supplement and at RRP £18.99 for a 6 month supply (or 3 months if you have a huge horse like mine lol) it's not an expensive one eiher.

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gemmakai

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gemmakai says:

Re: Whats the best calming supplement ?

Thanks for the advice guys :) to the lungeing suggesting i tried that but he trys to attack the lunge whip so if i send him away using body language he'll go from normal to flipping out and ends up rearing above my head so not worth it for my safety hence the kalmers :)  Gem x

Psycho , we're walking on sunshine

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