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yorkshiredeb

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yorkshiredeb says:

Novice haters

sorry for the forthcoming rant but im getting pretty fed up

What is so wrong with novices? wah tdo you class as a novice? Im looking for my first horse for me and my daughter to love.

We know the basics, OK we dont have 4 years veterinary  school experience but like ive said to others, what we lack in experience we make up for in care and love.

If i had any concerns i would seek expert advice, I would not let any horse be unhappy. It sbeen suggested I wouldnt know if my horse was ill - Hello? am i an ibeccille?

Im sorry - feeling fed up and degraded.

You must all have been novices at sometime, had yur first horse at some point. - How the hell are you supposed to start? S

surely true love for the horse, wanting the very best for him must count for something?

 

 

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Vik1

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Vik1 says:

Re: Novice haters

I do agree with tthose comments.  My old pony was a darling and a real kiddie pony.  There is a horse at the yard which most people would say is a first horse.  Not really good enough for fancy comps, can do a wee bit of most things and isnt aggressive in nature in the slightest.  His owner has been riding for years but really isnt very good (at all).  She is very novicey.  Her confidence has been completely shattered by this horse.  He learnt that as she spends half an hour riding 'with her mind' and concentrating on how her left buttock is sitting in the saddle he can piss off with her (dangerously so). 

 Hes not good enough for someone who wants to compete but hes not safe for a novice either. 

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ayla199

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ayla199 says:

Re: Novice haters

hi i totally agree yorkshiredeb some people are like that though. personally im different, the lady who part loans my cob i first met by chance i was out with my friend walking her foal out for the first time and my loanee was like ooooh a baby and asked if she could stroke her so while she was "loving" spirit i got talking to her and she said that she used to drive and ride horses as a little girl but has done anything for years (she was 39 at the time i met her) and she wanted to get back into it and by co-incidence i was having finance problems at the time and was looking for someone to part loan my horse so i took her number and the rest is history lol, that was 3 years ago and i couldnt have a better loanee. although it took a while for her to get back into things and at first i accompanied her at all times on the yard and out riding it didnt take long for her to pick things up. she was basically a novice as although she used to ride she hadnt ever had to actually look after and care for a horse she didnt even know how to groom. it was the best decision i ever made for my horse and i know even though she dont know everything she knows charli inside and out and would be the first to spot if he was ill and would ring me straight away.

novices should be given the chance we ALL started as novices and wouldnt be the riders/owners we are today without the chances we were given.

keep trying hun dont ever give up your perfect horse is out there and someone will see past the "novice" and see your potential and the love you have to give a horse and will be more than happy to sell/loan their horse to you.

xxxx

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Ben's Mum

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Ben's Mum says:

Re: Novice haters

Like you I'm a novice, just 18 months down the road.  To be honest I think I'll always consider myself to be a novice as there's so much to know and I'll never be proud to ask somebody something even if it seems like the dumbest of questions.  My priority is my horse.  I would never want my lack of knowledge or experience to cause him any suffering.

I think there is a huge difference between a novice who thinks they know it all and one who puts their hands up and says I know the basics but need some guidance - and that's what's important for the horse.  You'll be fine and don't ever worry about thinking people are looking down on you.  I've had that and now I'm sticking two fingers up at them as the horse they'd written off as 'dangerous' is now coming on in leaps and bounds.

There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man. ~ Sir Winston Churchill

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beckaroo

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beckaroo says:

Re: Novice haters

couldn't agree more with you ben's mum - someone who'll take guidance and actively seek to do the best for their horse, despite a lack of experience, is potentially a better horse owner than those who have years of experience with horses but think they're allright and so are lax in their care or handling of their horse. no matter how many years you have been around horses, there's always going to be something new to learn or something we've never done before - we've all got to be willing to learn no matter what stage we're at!!

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Heilan Mary

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Heilan Mary says:

Re: Novice haters

I am a total novice.  I went for my 1st riding lesson last July and started going weekly in October until April.  I got Molly, my part irish draught at the beginning of April.  I have gained experience with dealing with Molly, grooming, feeding, tacking up and riding.  I have found the horsey world to be most friendly and helpful i have ever encountered and have a farrier who offers me excellent advice.  I have made alot of friends through the horsey world and advice is always available from friends, and the people on this forum. It is a great learning experience and I am enjoying every minute off it. 

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MizzPurpleKitten

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Re: Novice haters

Lefkara said it right, thre are things everyoe needs to know before walking into the big responsibility of buying a horse. There are many degrees of 'novice' from absolute beginners to people who know their stuff but don't feel experienced enough to call themselves experienced.

I have no issue with Novices at all, and I agree everyone has to start somewhere, but I do believe that it's unfair on the animal if someone who doesn't even know the basics goes out and buys one just because they want one. After all, without kowing the basics, how can you tell whose advice is wrong and whose is right (there are many differing opinions i the horsey world, just like everything else, some are wrong, some are right).

Basic\lly, you wouldn't go out and buy a ar without first learning at least a bit on how to drive and who to go to should things go wrong, so why buy a horse without frst  knowing all of the basics to make the horse happy and healthy.

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yorkshiredeb

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yorkshiredeb says:

Re: Novice haters

Thanks everyone - i so readily admit to everyone im a novice - i couldnt lie if i tried!

But its liek im not gettign a chance, i wouldnt keep any horse alone - i know everyone at my local yard who helped me with my loan so would help me with my own.

I truly love animals - id probably be the one ringing the vet for nothing, i would never ever let a horse suffer.

Thats what i mean  - surely my true love, devotion, wanting to learn would make me a good horse owner?

 

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kassylp

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kassylp says:

Re: Novice haters

love to a horse tho is all well and good but you need to know what to do in a case of a horse coming in with a wire cut but wouldnt warrant the vet being called. a vet isnt needed everytime a horse coughs. you seriously need to know your stuff before owning a horse. you need to think, horses have bad days too and really dont want a rider on them. if they horse tries it on then that is gonna worry you if you havent been around a horse enough. love and help from people on the farm is all well and good but he will be your horse and people wont always be up the farm to rely on. just seriously think about this huge decision before putting life savings into it. how about a loan with a few to buy after heading off for a few lessons and hacks out on a riding school horse first. all the best

Kas

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MaesSeren

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MaesSeren says:

Re: Novice haters

True love, devotion and the want to learn can *help* to become a good horse owner, but without the experience and knowledge to *know* whats going wrong, you'll soon find yourself in deep sh!t, just as i did with my last 2 horses so i speak from experience.

I care for my horses, they always come first, i thought that was enough but apparently getting knocked unconscious, breaking bones, and taking away my confidence and will to live showed me that it wasnt.

 

I understand totally how you feel as like i said, i thought the same before, that was til i was on the verge of giving up as i couldnt love them anymore than i did and yet they still hated me. Whats worse? Knowing the horse you love to bits physically HATES you? Hates you enough to ditch you into a wooden fence (think menage fence not jump fence) and that hard it smashed the fence concreted into the floor? Or being bolted with down the road after a nice hack out which i thought my horse would like? And to end that, i got trampled on the tarmac.

People never understand why i hardly ride now, i have my horses, i go up, see them, feed them and leave. I was dreading riding today 'just incase' my innocent pony who worships the ground i walk on did anything remotely close to what they did. I dont jump much any longer as one of the boys thought it was funny to crush me underneath him as he bolted over the fence and tripped, ive had my head thru jump wings, broken wooden poles, been decked that hard they called the ambulance as i couldnt breathe and as such i went unconscious.

 

Love and devotion sometimes just aint enough. Gems is an angel for me, i love her to bits and would never put her in danger that i actively knew of, and i know she would always do the same for me and im the one whos put in the hours of hard work to school her and bring her on to the standard where she is now - a bum high pony working at elementary dressage at home and can do more advanced movements in dressage alone - i was told she wasnt worth £2000, let alone what we paid for her, but she is, shes worth her weight in gold and i can trot as fast as someone else can gallop on her, put ask for canter and you'll get it no matter what. If i point her at a fence she'll jump for me, christ it was partly her jump which decked me last time and 2yrs on im having physio!!! Even thru everything thats happened between us, and what i know about her past now (ie the court case!) if i knew it before i paid for her i wouldnt have touched her but im glad i did, i know that the woman who sued her last owner was at least partly telling the truth as Gem did the exact same thing to me, and shes bucked me off before, but now shes a saint. But love and devotion would send her crazy, she likes her love and attention, but at a distance! When she wants cuddles youre fine, but she wont think anything of bucking/kicking out at you while trotting away if she doesnt want it.

 

The main reason why i worry about novices riding my guys is plain and simple... people sue! And novices, no matter how much they think they can predict the situation, they cant. I struggle with strange horses, but i know my pony and i can work her out of any situation where she may spook or anything, and i can sit to her spooks too, but its not worth causing pain to a novice!

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x-pony-sweetie-x

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Re: Novice haters

I would call myself a novice - I'm no show jumper or equine vet, I've never owned my own horse, but I still have the basic care and riding knowledge. Everyone starts somewhere, and everyone is always learning. As long as you know how to look after the horse, and can admit when you need expert help, you are more than ready to own a horse. Good luck! x

Glory <3 PONY WEEK 2009!!!

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